Who is Red John?

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Theory #9521 • By Jane & John
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All this Kirklands twin brother shit is stupid, why would Bruno Heller only have Red Johns name said 5 episodes before his capture? before that episode no one knew Kirkland had a brother, so that is just fucking stupid, all you cunts are retarded fuck heads if you think it is him. sieg fucken heil

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No one has confirmed Red John had anything to do with the private investigator. Getting a amateur to bug the CBI and then killing her like that is just unprofessional. The three dots are what identifies the Tyger Tyger group. I am certain they are not related, but i have no idea how Tyger Tyger knew RJ recited those exact words to Jane and decided to call themselves that. My only exlanation is that they are a group dedicated to catching Red John and will do whatever is necessary to achieve this goal and a member of the CBI team is apart of it, maybe Van Pelt or Rigsby? but then why would they need to bug the office? It is all very confusing and Bruno Heller can play this however he likes but personally i think this whole Tyger Tyger group thing is just stupid. I also think he will not cover all of the RJ mysteries he has left e.g; Roll Tide, He is Ma... , Rosalind's connection with it all, so i think Kira Tinsley was murdered by Tyger Tyger and not RJ and that Bruno Heller is in over his head.

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Rigsby and Van Pelt leave the show mid season.
Mid season Red John is caught.

Red John kills Rigsby so he can steal Van Pelt because she has red hair and is amazingly sexy. Since Van Pelt loves to have sex she jumps into bed with RJ (who has a mask on so she doesn't know who he is) and they begin to have sex. After 3 seconds Van Pelt realizes Rigsby's penis was at least double the size of RJ's so she grabs her gun and shoots RJ as she wasn't satisfied. Van Pelt then realizes only one type of person could have such a small penis, an asian. After figuring out it is Cho before even taking the mask off him, she realizes everytime she has sex from now on she will think of small penises so she shoots herself in the head aswell.

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In Season 1 Episode 23 , Rosalind Harker wrote RJ a letter saying she found this address on a buisness card down the back of the sofa, how could she do that if she is blind? You may say RJ planted the letter and Rosaling knew nothing about it, but Jane said to her "in the letter you wrote him you said he was cruel to you" and she acted as if she knew about the letter. So either Bruno Heller messed this scene up on accident(highly unlikely) or Harker is not being truthful about RJ's identity. Harker said Roy smoked alot, none of the suspects have been seen smoking if i am not mistaken? But dumar, the cop who brought the elephant, matches the description she gave of Roy, so maybe she never met RJ and only Dumar? Or perhaps she is lying about everything.

Also is Strawberries and Cream pt 2, how did Timothy Carter know that Jane and Bertram would be in the mall? Jane would of told Bertram in the car where they are going, so maybe he sent a text out the Timothy? Also after Jane had the meeting with Bertram, Bertram picked up the phone and the scene changed so we didnt see what he said, maybe he rang carter, told him to park outside the CBI, and follow Jane's car when he leaves with bertram? If this is what happened , RJ is Bertram.

But i doubt this for some reason, and none of the suspects really stick out to me as RJ , so i dont have a suspect for RJ.

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Before narrowing down to a single name for Red John, let us agree on a few facts/ motifs of the show.
1. The obvious suspect is NEVER the culprit.
2. There are always red herrings.
3. Most episodes involve a complex sub-plot within the obvious, bigger plot.
4. The show, like any other show, is likely to use, and does, top notch actors (I.e. actors with serious creds from other shows on television) for key roles.

In the light of the above, let's look at what we know about Red John.

1. He is omnipresent. Even for an accomplished criminal, the extent of his crime is massive. He is seemingly everywhere.
2. He recites Tyger Tyger to Jane. 'What immortal hand or eye/ could frame thy fearful symmetry'.
3. Jane's list of 7 suspects matches his own.
4. There is a definite connection between Red John and Visualize.

All this points to the fact that Red John is not one person. Red John is a gang, a cult, comprising possibly all 7 people, headed by Bret Stiles. 'What immortal hand or eye/ could frame thy fearful symmetry' is an allusion to a tiger's many stripes- that an artist, were he to attempt painting, could never get right because there are so many.

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